The Searcher
JoinedPosts by The Searcher
-
-
-
-
7
What the Org Teaches #9 There are TWO classes of J.W's
by The Searcher in#9 there are two classes of j.w's.
's worldwide are deemed by the brooklyn hierarchy as not being righteous enough yet, and as such, are unfit to be called god's children - unlike the hierarchy.
they claim that the riff-raff will take another 1000 years to achieve the same degree of righteousness and godly recognition which they have already been "blessed" with!.
-
-
The Searcher
#9 There are TWO classes of J.W's
More than 99% of J.W.'s worldwide are deemed by the Brooklyn hierarchy as not being righteous enough yet, and as such, are unfit to be called God's children - unlike the hierarchy.
They claim that the riff-raff will take another 1000 years to achieve the same degree of righteousness and Godly recognition which they have already been "blessed" with!
What the Org Says:
w10 1/15 p. 5 par 12 & footnote - "Jesus’ "other sheep" will not become sons of God until the end of the thousand years. However, since they have dedicated themselves to God, they can properly address God as "Father" and can rightly be considered members of Jehovah’s family of worshippers."
w08 1/15 p. 21 par. 8 - "Anointed Christians are declared righteous, because they exercise faith in Jesus' ransom sacrifice". In Jehovah’s eyes, they are acquitted of sin and can be anointed with holy spirit to be spiritual sons of God, brothers of Jesus Christ. They come into the new covenant and form a new nation, "the Israel of God."
w05 6/1 p. 10 par. 5 - "They (anointed) have been declared righteous as spiritual sons of God, and to them these words apply: "He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins." — Colossians 1:13, 14.
w04 11/1 p. 13 par. 17-"Those who successfully pass the final test after the Millennial Reign of Christ will be adopted as Jehovah’s earthly sons and "have the glorious freedom of the children of God." (Romans 8:21; Revelation 20:7, 9) In anticipation of this, they address Jehovah as their Father."
But What Does the Bible Really Teach?
(Matthew 12:50) whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."
(Matthew 13:38) The field is the world; as for the fine seed, these are the sons of the kingdom;
(Matthew 25:40) To the extent that YOU did it to one of the least of these my brothers, YOU did it to me.
(Mark 3:35) Whoever does the will of God, this one is my brother and sister and mother."
(Luke 8:21) In reply he said to them: "My mother and my brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it."
(John 1:12,13) However, as many as did receive him, to them he gave authority to become God’s children.........
(Rom. 8:14) For all who are led by God’s spirit, these are God’s sons.
(1 John 5:1) Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God..........(Revised Standard Version)
Jesus said that the meek would inherit the earth. Therefore, all Christians will become joint heirs with Christ when he inherits his reward from heavenly Father.
Jesus addressed God as Father. How were all of his disciples to address God? (Matt. 6:9)
Jesus promised that he would have one flock of sheep, not two different "classes" with different hopes. (John 10:16)
-
12
The Millenium is Not Going to Be Fun - According to FDS/G.B.
by The Searcher inthe org teaches j.w.
's to tell others that the earth will soon be a paradise - free of crime & violence and with no nasty people to make their lives miserable.
why aren't they telling them the whole "truth"?
-
-
The Searcher
The Org teaches J.W.'s to tell others that the earth will soon be a paradise - free of crime & violence and with no nasty people to make their lives miserable.
Why aren't they telling them the whole "truth"? Why aren't J.W.'s told at their Regional Conventions that "vile things" are going to be practiced by people in paradise?
The self-proclaimed "only channel for dispensing spiritual food" - aka the FDS/G.B. - interprets John 5:28,29 to say that the 144,001 king/priests are going to allow people to perpetrate vile deeds.
it-2 p. 138 Judgment Day - "...Revelation 20:12 says that the resurrected dead will then be "judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds." Those resurrected will not be judged on the basis of the works done in their former life.."
bh p. 214 par. 3 Judgment Day—What Is It? - "According to the apostle John’s vision, "the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds." (Revelation 20:12) Are these scrolls the record of people’s past deeds? No, the judgment will not focus on what people did before they died..... Thus, individuals will be judged on the basis of what they do during Judgment Day.
uw chap. 9 p. 76 par. 12 Power of the Resurrection Hope - "They will be "judged individually according to their deeds" performed after their resurrection.
w82 4/1 p. 25 par. 18 The Kingdom and the Resurrection Hope - "Both "those who did good things" and "those who practiced vile things" will be among "those dead" who will be "judged individually according to their deeds" performed after their resurrection.
Come on Brooklyn Writing Committee, explain this drivel out of the other side of your mouths!
-
19
What the Org Teaches #8 "Jehovah's Witnesses" is Our Scriptural Name!
by The Searcher in#8 "jehovah's witnesses" is our scriptural name!
jehovah's witnesses are taught (and believe) by their hierarchy in brooklyn that the name of their religion is based on the bible itself.
a little bit of research comprehensively reveals that the statement which was written in isaiah 43:10 about the jewish nation 700 years before christians appeared, has been corruptly and un-scripturally adopted as a "god-given" name.
-
-
The Searcher
#8 "Jehovah's Witnesses" is Our Scriptural Name!
Jehovah's Witnesses are taught (and believe) by their hierarchy in Brooklyn that the name of their religion is based on the Bible itself.
A little bit of research comprehensively reveals that the statement which was written in Isaiah 43:10 about the Jewish nation 700 years before Christians appeared, has been corruptly and un-scripturally adopted as a "God-given" name.
#8 "Jehovah's Witnesses" is Our Scriptural Name!
w95 5/15 p. 19 pars. 14-15 Part 1—Flashes of Light—Great and Small - "In 1931 a bright flash of truth revealed to those Bible Students a fitting Scriptural name....... they also began to appreciate that the name that they themselves had taken—International Bible Students—did not do them justice........Therefore, it was most appropriate that the Bible Students should adopt the name found at Isaiah 43:10." (and ignore the cascade of scriptures which say otherwise!)
jv chap. 11 p. 155, 156 - How We Came to Be Known as Jehovah’s Witnesses - "What name would be in harmony with the way God was in fact using them?" ".......we are students of the Bible, but, as a body of Christians forming an association,... we refuse to bear or to be called by the name of any man; (even Jesus Christ?) "that we are servants of Jehovah God commissioned to do a work in his name, therefore we joyfully embrace and take the name which the mouth of the Lord God has named, and we desire to be known as and called by the name, to wit, Jehovah’s witnesses.- Isa. 43:10-12."*
w50 5/15 pp. 148-149 pars. 12-13 Living Up to the Name - "Jehovah’s witnesses cannot properly be called by the name of any....man. They can be identified only by the name of the only one they represent, who is Jehovah God,.....The clergy of Christendom and millions of their religious followers claim to be Christians. They are not living up to the name. By claiming to be Christians, they assume the obligation to witness to Jehovah’s name....They take the name Christian, but do they measure up to it? No! They decline to be witnesses of Jehovah.
"What Does the Bible Really Teach?
Isaiah 62:2 - "... be called by a new name, which the very mouth of Jehovah will designate."
Acts 11:26 - "the disciples were by divine providence called Christians."
Matthew 10:18 - ".....for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.
Mark 13:9 - "......before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them."
Luke 24: 47,48 - "....and on the basis of his [Jesus'] name....You are to be witnesses....."
John 1:15 - "John bore witness about him..." [JESUS]
John 5:37 - "the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me."
John 8:18 - "the Father who sent me bears witness about me."
John 15:26,27 - "the spirit will bear witness about me; and YOU in turn, are to bear witness."
Acts 1:8 - "You [11 faithful apostles] will be witnesses of me...."
Acts 4:17,18 - ...upon the basis of this (Jesus') name .... upon the basis of the name of Jesus.
Acts 10:39 - "And we are witnesses of all the things he [Jesus] did..."
Acts 10:43 - "To him [Jesus] all the prophets bear witness....."
Acts 13:31 - "who are now his (Jesus') witnesses to the people.
Acts 22:15 - "because you are to be a witness for him [Jesus] to all men......"
Acts 22:20 - "......the blood of Stephen your [Jesus'] witness was being spilled..."
Acts 23:11 - "..... a thorough witness on the things about me in Jerusalem..."
Acts 26:16 - "I [Jesus]..choose you as an attendant and a witness.. respecting me"
Romans 8:16 - "The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit..."
1 Corinthians 1:6 - "even as the witness about the Christ..........."
1 Timothy. 2:6 - "......what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times."
2 Timothy 1:8 - "............of the witness about our Lord.. [Christ]"
1 John 5:9 - "the witness God gives...the fact that he has borne witness concerning his Son."
Revelation 1:9 - "....for speaking about God and bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 12:17 - ".......and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 17:6 - "........and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."
Revelation 19:10 - ".....the work of witnessing to Jesus.... bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 20:4 - "............ for the witness they bore to Jesus."
John 3:18 - "....he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God"
Acts 2:38 - "......be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ...."
Acts 3:6 - "In the name of Jesus Christ the Naz·a·rene´, walk!"
Acts 4:10 - ".......in the name of Jesus Christ the Naz·a·rene......"
Acts 8:16 - ".......been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
Acts 9:27 - ".....and how in Damascus he had spoken boldly in the name of Jesus."
Acts 10:48 - "With that he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ."
Acts 16:18 - ""I order you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her."
Acts 19:5 - "On hearing this, they got baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
1 Corinthians 1:2 - "....with all who....are calling upon the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ...."
James 2:7 - "They blaspheme the fine name by which YOU were called, do they not"?
1 Peter 4:14,16 - "If YOU are being reproached for the name of Christ, YOU are happy.... But if [he suffers] as a Christian, let him not feel shame......but let him keep on glorifying God in this name."
In whose name were Christians to witness? (see all of the above!)
For whose name would Christians be hated? (Matt. 10:22)
By whose name were people healed? (Acts 3:6; Acts 4:10)
By whose name were demons expelled? (Luke 10:17; Acts 16:18)
By whose name would people receive Holy Spirit? (John 14:26)In whose name would people pray to God? (John 15:16)
By whose name would people be called? (Isa. 62:2; Acts 11:26)
By whose name would people be reconciled to God? (Rom. 5:10; 2 Cor. 5:18)
By whose name would people be forgiven their sins? (Matt. 26:28; Acts 2:38; Eph. 1:7)
In whose name would people be judged? (John 5:27)
By whose name would people be resurrected (John 5:28)
In whose name would people be baptized? (Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5, 22:16)
In whose name were people to put faith? (John 2:23)
In whose name was Saul/Paul commissioned to preach? (Acts 9:14-16)
For whose name would Christians be reproached? (1 Peter 4:14)
In whose name were Christians to gather together? (Matt. 18:20)
For whose name would Christians make sacrifices? (Matt. 19:29)
For whose name would Christians be persecuted and killed? (Luke 21:12,16,17)
In whose name will every knee in heaven and on earth bend? (Philippians 2:10)
By whose name would people be declared righteous? (1 Cor. 6:11)
In whose name would Christians offer a sacrifice of praise? (Hebrews 13:15)
When I was a "Bible study", my study conductor brought the Circuit Overseer to see me.
The C.O. said that "if a person refuses to accept three scriptures as proof during a topic of discussion, then don't waste your time offering more scriptures, because they clearly don't want to see the truth."
So here are my three favourites out of all of the scriptural proofs:
Acts 1:8 - "You will be witnesses of me [not my Father!]....to the most distant part of the earth"
Acts 22:15 - "because you are to be a witness for him [Jesus - not God!] to all men......"
Revelation 12:17 - ".......and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus." [not God!]
The name of Jesus Christ was most definitely to be the focus for Christians - according to the Bible!
-
39
It's official - the G.B. has replaced the Holy Spirit!
by The Searcher inthe watchtower november 2016, page 16, par.
"some may feel that they can interpret the bible on their own.
however, jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only* channel for dispensing spiritual food.
-
-
The Searcher
The Watchtower November 2016, page 16, par. 9 says this:
"Some may feel that they can interpret the Bible on their own. However, Jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only* channel for dispensing spiritual food. Since 1919, the glorified Jesus Christ has been using that slave to help his followers understand God’s own Book and heed its directives. By obeying the instructions found in the Bible, we promote cleanness, peace, and unity in the congregation. Each one of us does well to ask himself, ‘Am I loyal to the channel that Jesus is using today?’
John 14:26 tells a very different story - "....the holy spirit which the Father will send in my name........will teach you all things....." (unless some folks in Brooklyn N.Y. tell you otherwise!)
* Oh, Mr. Jackson of the G.B. - liar, liar, pants on fire!! You swore on God's own book to tell the truth to the Australian Royal Commission, and then went on to tell the Commission that it would be presumptuous of your cabal to claim they were God's only spokespersons on earth.
Judging by the latest Watchtower, it looks like your cohorts want to broadcast their presumptuousness!
Maybe someone will share your "new light" with the A.R.C.
-
9
What the Org Teaches #7 Birthdays
by The Searcher in#7 birthdays.
what the org teaches: .
"the bible never refers to a servant of god celebrating a birthday.
-
-
The Searcher
#7 Birthdays
What the Org Teaches:
"The Bible never refers to a servant of God celebrating a birthday. This is not simply an oversight, for it does record two birthday celebrations by those not serving God. However, both of those events are presented in a bad light." (Source - JW.0RG website)
What Does the Bible Really Teach:
When it comes to birthday celebrations being mentioned in the (RNWT) Bible, the Org suffers from selective amnesia when Job's sons are mentioned!
Job 1:4 - "And his sons went and held a banquet at the house of each one on his own day;" (Strong's h3117 - Aramaic - yowm)
Job 3:1* - "It was after this that Job opened his mouth and began to call down evil upon his day." (Strong's h3117 - Aramaic - yowm) *(cross-referenced with Jeremiah 20:14 - "Cursed be the day on which I was born! May the day that my mother gave me birth not become blessed!"
Using the same logic, Jehovah's Witness females should carefully examine their consciences after reading the following:
The Bible never refers to a servant of God wearing eye-makeup. This is not simply an oversight, for it does record two eye-makeup occasions by those not serving God. (2 Kings 9:30; Ezekiel 23:40) However, both of those events are presented in a bad light.
This Bible "principle" apparently/probably/evidently/clearly shows that Jehovah's Witness sisters should never wear eye-makeup, for fear of imitating a pagan practice!
The moral of the story is this - don't let elders know that you wore mascara at your birthday party!
In a similar vein, there is not a single reference in the Bible of a servant of God celebrating their wedding anniversary, therefore J.W.'s should be forbidden from carrying out such an "unscriptural" practice.
-
22
I'm gonna sue those f€$¥kers
by moley inwell the ball has started rolling, gonna sue, can't go into to much detail.
time for some payback .
-
-
The Searcher
So sorry you are in such a situation in the first place, but absolutely commend you for having the character and determination to take this putrid corporation to court.
Every decent human being will be supporting you in your fight for justice. I wish you strength & endurance.
-
6
What the Org Teaches #6 The "Governing Body" Resolved the Circumcision Issue
by The Searcher in#6 the "governing body" resolved the circumcision issue .
what the org says: bt chap.
13 p. 103 par.
-
-
The Searcher
#6 The "Governing Body" Resolved the Circumcision IssueWhat the Org Says: bt chap. 13 p. 103 par. 9 - "One valuable lesson we learn is that we need to trust God’s organization.* Consider: The brothers in Antioch knew that the governing body was made up entirely of Christians of Jewish background. Yet, they trusted that body to settle the question of circumcision in harmony with the Scriptures."
But What Does the Bible Really Teach?
At Galations 2:1-9, the apostle Paul's words are crystal clear - he was divinely inspired to tell those in Jerusalem that circumcision was not required for Christians. (v2)
He taught them - not the other way around! Galatians 2:6 - "But regarding those who seemed to be important......those highly regarded men imparted nothing new to me.
The apostle Paul was used to settle the circumcision issue - not a fictitious "governing body."
The Brooklyn hierarchy dictates that the circumcision issue proves Christ appointed a "governing body" in the first century. The Bible's account proves that the Brooklyn hierarchy are charlatans! ("a person who falsely pretends to know or be something in order to deceive people". Merriam-Webster dictionary)
*One valuable lesson we learn is that we need to waken up to the perversions of the business corporation which masquerades as "God’s" organization and "keeps transforming itself into an angel of light." (2 Cor. 11:14)
-
30
How to Fade - The Basics!
by The Searcher inthis really works.
i've already applied the basics of this with one elder who "offered" us a shepherding visit.
we've been totally ignored since!!!
-
-
The Searcher
p.s. Don't demean yourself by making the BIG mistake of offering excuses or even lying to these people.
Just build the "brick wall" which tells them "Don't call me, I'll call you!
Nothing more is needed after that - regardless of who the elders are!.
-
30
How to Fade - The Basics!
by The Searcher inthis really works.
i've already applied the basics of this with one elder who "offered" us a shepherding visit.
we've been totally ignored since!!!
-
-
The Searcher
This really works.
I've already applied the basics of this with one elder who "offered" us a shepherding visit. We've been totally ignored since!!! :)
In order to fade as painlessly & safely as possible from the Org, it is imperative to always keep in mind this potentially trauma-saving maxim when in the presence of J.W.'s, especially the elders: "Divulge nothing".
Giving personal information to such ones will be like putting a rope around your own neck. Sadly, many J.W.'s couldn't or wouldn't have the nerve/courage/know-how to refuse to discuss things when questioned by the "appointed shepherds."
Never forget that elders know that they can't force you to talk with them, so they rely on your fear of their non-existent authority to comply with their interrogation.
The following is by no means comprehensive, but it is simple, straightforward, and very effective if you are offered a "shepherding call" or invited into the back room at the Kingdom Hall for a "chat".
If the former, simply say "thanks for your offer brothers, but not at the moment. I'll let you know when I feel ready."
If the latter, enter the room and let them reveal what's on their minds. (your lack of field service, meeting attendance, etc.) Now you're ready to say something along these lines:
"Thank you for your concerns brothers, but I have private & personal issues which I can't discuss with anyone at the moment, but I certainly appreciate your motives and concern. If things change, I will call you. Thank you for your offer".
Elders' Conversation Stoppers:
1) "We only want to come and give you encouragement." Simply repeat the response above - especially the phrase "private & personal."!
2) "But how can we help you if you won't talk to us?" "Everyone has private & personal situations which they can't discuss with others, and I'm sure that includes the elders - I'm no different!"
3) "Are you refusing to talk with us?" "No, I just don't want to discuss things right now. I'll call you if things change."
If they push with their interrogation, just say 'thanks' and walk away immediately!
Do not prolong the interrogation. They can't punish you for ending a conversation!
Repeat any/all of the above to anyone who tries to extract information from you, because the elders will likely get someone you trust to try and get information out of you!
If you rehearse & practice your responses, you will be so much more confident and able to fend off any attempts to ambush you. Always display a meek but firm disposition.
Never act confrontational with the wolves, because the alpha-male in the pack will go for you!